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Babe ruth or barry bonds ?

babe had 8399 at bats-------------bonds has 9507

babe also had 94 wins as a pitcher

Anyone who has to ask this question hasn't done their homework. The record books speak for them. The Babe was a pitcher for 5-years. Put him in the field those 5-years and at a minimum of 15-homers we have a total of 789. And 15 is being short. Of course he wouldn't hold any pitching records by a left-hander, as he still does. And has anyone noticed that Babe is nowhere near the top 50 batters in striking out? His .342 is a great indication of how great a hitter he was. He would have went over 3,000 hits as a regular. Give him 50-RBI's for each of those five years and see where he would be on that list. And to think all the Babe did was stuff himself with hot dogs, soda pop and beer. That 42-ounce war club put a lot of balls over the walls. Nobody then or now swung a heavier bat. Ruth may not have the stolen bases Bonds has but he stole Home 10 times. Look it up!
Bonds? Get outta town!

The Babe wins because he simply played the game better, plus he was not on steroids like Roidman aka Bonds.

Ruth

Ruth, he did it on hot dogs and beer. Barry is too arrogant.

Sorry neither - Henry (Hank) Aaron.
But to answer your Q - The Babe

no more steroids

No question. For so many reasons. George Herman "Babe" Ruth. Not just the fact that the Babe was a pitcher turned OF. Or that the only artificial substance the Babe would have used was probably beer or whiskey. But for the fact that the Babe actually helped save baseball after the "Black Sox Scandal".

Ruth, plus he hit all his HR's during the deadball era when everyone else rarely hit over 10 a season.

Babe Ruth: Hot dogs, cigars, and chasing women were his forms of drugs.

Barry Bonds: Steroids

Babe Ruth was a fun loving care free guy, who enjoyed life. Had all of the vises that we deem as evil, and bad for the body, and still produced as a pitcher, and as a batter.

Barry Bonds is a grumpy anti-social person. He does not seem to love the game anymore, and is looking at it from the business perspective. He wants the record even if he has to limp to it.

Give me the guy who loves baseball and enjoys being out there everyday over the one who only does it for himself, his prestige, and his wallet.

Ooh, Baby Ruth! Me likey Chocolate!!

what about hank aaron? did you forget him? the game has changed so much since then. from the cleats to the hats. the baseball itself. i could go on.i don't think babe could hit the pitching today.

You can make that Babe Ruth or anybody and the answer is still Babe Ruth. The best baseball player of all time, past, present or future. One year he hit more homers than any American League TEAM! Besides his 94 pitching wins, he lead the league in ERA and shutouts. The first time he led the league in homers, he also had 13 pitching wins. As a hitter, he wasn't just a slugger. His lifetime batting average was .344. You will never see accomplishments like that again.

Ruth....not an everyday player for part of his career...played many years during the dead ball era.

Between Ruth and Bonds - here's another angle: Babe Ruth changed how the game was played. Before he started walloping home runs, it was almost all "small ball" - singles, bunts, stolen bases, hit and run, etc. Now, I really enjoy that style of play more than watching a homerun fest.

But despite my preferences, when you look at how the game changed, it was Babe Ruth who was central to changing the focus from small ball to power hitting. He paved the way for the power hitters who have come along and have broken his records.

Of course, as the face of steroid use, Barry Bonds has changed the way the players approach the game, but in a way that hardly anyone would agree was good for the baseball.

babe Ruth because of the single reason he did it with out scandal.

I'll go with the guy who hit homers by drinking beer and eating hot dogs. The guy who points to the stands and actually delivered the homer. The guy who pitched as well as he hit.

I despise the man who is a giant *** who takes HGH and blames it on his teammates, lets his trainer go to jail to cover his own ***. I hope Pete Rose gets in the Hall Of Fame before Bonds. Atleast Pete Rose got his records on his own not with roids.

Not even in the same league .. Ruth = Hero, Legend, Icon, Leader.... Bonds = CHEATER, whiner, liar, greedy ---- NO CONTEST

Babe Ruth hit with natural ability. Barry Bonds is obviously juiced up.

Babe Ruth all the way. He's all around a better ball player. Besides, Barry Bonds doesn't deserve to be as good as the Babe.

BABE!

Ruth, because of steroids. Hank Aaron is one of my all-time favorites, but anyone who puts him in the class with Ruth needs to re-examine the numbers. It's not even close

Aaron was, indeed, a great player, but Mantle was better, and Mays was just as good. So, if he wasn't the best player of his era, how could he stack up to Ruth?

In addition to all the other Ruthian numbers cited by others I offer this one : A . 342 career BA. Most players never see that BA in the course of a season and yet the Babe did for a whole career, amazing truly amazing

It is nearly impossible to compare Babe Ruth with stars from later eras for so many reasons. His stats are indeed mind-blowing, but deceptive. The Babe is baseball's greatest pop-culture icon, but far from being the greatest player ever.

First of all, Babe played in a league that was inferior to the league of the last 50 years. The pool from which MLB talent was drawn during his career was exponentially smaller than that of the modern league. Imagine removing all African American, Hispanic, and Asian Players from today's league. That's a rough approximation of what Ruth would have faced.

The caliber of pitching that Ruth faced was also much weaker. Ruth never saw a slider like Randy Johnson's. He never faced the equal of a Schilling, Martinez, Clemens, Maddux, Ryan, Seaver, Koufax, etc. He likely never saw a 100 mph pitch, a phenomena not uncommon today. In his monster 1927 season when he jacked 60, he never faced the league leaders in wins, strike outs, and ERA; they were in pinstipes.

Speaking of homeruns, Babe should probably have an asterisk by his stats. According to the Encyclopia of Baseball, it wasn't until 1931 that MLB designated a homer as any hit that travels over the fence in the air and in fair territory as a homer. Prior to then, any ball bouncing over or rolling through the fence was counted as a round-tripper. It is likely, then, that many of Ruth's "homers," including his 60 in '27, weren't actually homers by the modern definition, but what would be today ground rule doubles.

The Babe was ultimately a single-faceted player. He was a power hitter. Period. Yes, I know, he amassed some noteworthy stats as a pitcher, but if he was really a great pitcher why did he not continue to pitch?

Was he a great defensive player? Almost no mention is made of his defensive prowess in the annuls of history. How many stolen bases did he accumulate? 123 (his career high was 14 in 1920). Leo Durocher said that there were four things a ballplayer had to be able to do to be a superstar: run, field, hit, and hit for power. Ruth could do two of these.

As loathable as he is, Bonds' career has been at least impressive, at most one of the greatest of all time. Though the legitimacy of his stats is in question, he played with and against far more talented players than did the Babe. Depending on the source, as much as 70% of MLB players, including pitchers, used performance enhancing substances during the last 10 years. Why is Bonds the only man who put up the numbers he put up? Steriods may make you bigger and stronger, but they can't help you hit a baseball or win a batting title with a .370 average. He's got gold gloves. He's the only player in history with 500 HRs and 500 stolen bases. For that matter, he's the only player with 400 of each.

Babe Ruth was certainly a great player. He probably influenced the game more than any other player in history. But influece doesn't equate to all around skill. He was great, but not the greatest. That honor, in my opinion, goes to Bonds' godfather.

It would be interesting, though, if we could take the Bonds from 1995 and put him in the 1920s and bring the Babe of 1927 to today. I think any rational baseball fan, regardless of their opinions of personality, would be able to predict the outcome of these scenarios.

thats kind of a stupid question(no offense). babe all the way barry bonds a a no good lying cheater.babe ruth got ad many home runs as he did with pure talent and in less at bats and on top of that he was a pitcher. barry bonds is just a fat gut that stands in the outfield.

This isn't even a legitimate question.

Babe Ruth.

Ruth, by a landslide.

Barry Bonds!!!!
Almost all of Ruth's homeruns were over short fences, a little over 300 feet. Ruth didn't have to face all these pitchers that are on steroids!!!

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