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Barry Bonds the best ever?

7 MVP's, 8 Gold Gloves, 12 Silver Sluggers, Most HR single season, Most walks single season, highest slugging percentage single season, highest on base percentage single season,13 consecutive seasons with 30+ HR, 5 30HR-30SB seasons, invented the 500HR-500SB club, and most HR career. i may be forgeting some, but that's a pretty good resume. and yes obviously i know about the steroids so let's leave that out of this discussion please.

please read the question. the steroids horse has been beat to death. just baseball

Yes without a doubt. The proof? 762 hrs and 514 stolen bases. How many great sluggers out there managed to steal that many bases? none!

the most juiced up ever is why he is the best ever

He's the best of this ERA.

Too hard to say best ever, baseball has changed. You can argue for too many players as "best ever."

Ted Williams for instance, last guy to hit .400 in a season, and look at the hits and home runs he accumulated considering he MISSED 5 seasons due to fighting in two wars.

No, he is not the best ever.

The best don't use drugs to be good.
It comes naturally.

so basically you are going into this question with blinders on........ok then, well he was pretty good,
before his head size grew 2 inches bigger.
but not the best.

rickey henderson was better than him....look at his numbers.
he's everything you want in a non-pitcher.

look at the categories he's number one or two in.
baseball-reference.com

You can't just ignore steroids - although Baroid Kool-aid drinkers would like too. Before 1999 when he started using he was not even in the running for best ever so he can NEVER be best ever - he cheated - he took a bus to win a marathon - you Baroid drinkers sacrifice honor. You cannot leave cheating out of a discussion about Baroid.

To me Barry Bonds was the best untill the steroid allegations took place, after that I do see him as a cheater, but there is no doubt that he is one of the most dominating players to have ever grace the great american game.

no hes not the best. hes the worst. is the biggest disgrace you could imagine.

STERIODS!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes hes the best -- cheater

o ya definitely, hes right up there with osama and saddam. Lets not forget he wouldn't have those stats without a certain substance.

NO! Here is his real stats: id say 2 MVPs 0 gold gloves, 4 silver sluggers, definetly doesnt have most HR in single season carrer home runs id say around 480, STEROIDS

bonds is horrible look at his first 5 years that woulda been the highlight of his career without the um "leave it out of discussion"

He certainly would be up there but with the PEDs and the personality and the negative outlook and the temper tantrums and the lack of a ring I could not care less.

Ruth was headed to the Hall of Fame as a pitcher before the Red Sox decided he'd be better as a regular in the everyday lineup. He was. And he was the BEST.

yes, bonds* was the best.. the best steroid and hgh user ever....

No. One simple reason. If you go by home runs, he had far more at-bats. If you take his amount of at-bats, and compare this to Babe Ruths, he had far more. So many more, that if Babe had always been an outfielder, he would have had over 1000 home runs, a surreal number.

Best steroid user ever. Sorry, but I did read the post and you cannot mention Bonds and not have a say on the steroids issue.Same with McGuire and Sosa. The sad thing is, Barry was destined to be great without the help of steroids, but he chose to take that path and has to answer for it now. He will not be a first ballot HOF, but will get in soon enough.Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Pete Rose, all great also and each comes with some baggage.

No. Couldn't pitch. Ruth could, and quite well.

But he's been the best during my lifetime, the best I likely will ever see, and easily ensconced within the Top Ten (and then, way up in the smaller numbers) of any meaningfully constructed list of the things he could do.

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